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LikeMagic

I have the feeling that Dan might have thrown the BYOD plan out the window Rolling Eyes

the FAQs at the magicJack.com used to mention the availability of BYOD "soon". That info is now gone from the FAQs. I guess Dan is planning to make it rich by just selling the MJ devices and not selling phone number for $2 to be used with the to-be-offered "BYOD" plan as he once promised.

Anyone else heard anything different? Rolling Eyes

Anyway, please cast your vote to let Dan know what users really want!!! Cool

Note:

BYOD = Bring Your Own Device
ATA = Analog Telephone Adapter, a device with RJ-11 jack (like MJ device) but with built-in VOIP/SIP logic so no PC/MAC is required to run VOIP/SIP application. An ATA connects directly to the router or switch/hub via a standard ethernet cable.

VaHam · Dan Needs To Hire Me Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 133

I am really not sure why this has come to pass but I am getting the same feeling about BYOD being a pipe dream. It was there and now no mention of it. Gives one a shaky feeling about what else is promised and may go away also.

I really do not understand why on earth using an ATA is against the TOS right now. I mean think of the complaints which would go away if folks could just use their own ATA. It would be fair, to issue a statement, that tech support is not available for BYOD and is discouraged. But, if it is true that people have had their accounts yanked for trying it then that sounds stupid.

At the very least they should allow some to sign up as beta testers or something and agree that no tech support would be available for doing so, in return for being allowed to use their own ATA's without fear of cancellation of their account. MJ could designate one server for the those who wish to try BYOD and let the users who wish to try BYOD fend for themselves there. If they have problems then they could just switch back to a regular server and use the TigerJet hardware.

This would be a win - win since the techies could legitimately use their own equipment as they would choose to do. They could also then be a rapid team to help with testing 729 and other type codecs etc. in a broader environment than MJ itself ever could internally. I can understand why they would not make BYOD and official offering currently since that would mean attempting to provide tech support for it as well. I think they already more than have their hands full in that arena.

Most techie folks don't care that they have to fork out $20 for the device that they wouldn't need; heck look at the money being spent on small form factor computers to host the MJ hardware that is taking place right now, just to avoid breaking the TOS. MJ could still make whatever profit margin is on the TigerJet Hardware sales.

If it is because there is some thought that selling ad space on the softphone is going to be profitable then I believe that is a serious mistake. It will always be easy to thwart that happening using very easy to perform techniques.

If it were me, I would want the technically savvy folks working with me to help improve service instead of devising ways to work against me.

richardtaur · MagicJack Contributor Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 70

If he offers the BYOD, I would rather pay more what he requires and pay for my own device. BYOD is more reliable, more efficient.
If the jack is $20 a year to renew and $40 to renew for BYOD, I would subscribe the jack and the BYOD yearly fee.
Mr. Boss: Please offer the BYOD, you don't need the tech support for BYOD, all tech supports are here.
You can say that ,"BYOD option is ideal for advanced user and for your own risk to use the service".
If we have the BOYD option, there won't be too much people suffering the problems & problems right now, and also it will reduce the company expense to hire techs to do tsht in the chat room instead of getting more engineers to get more futures to sale and generate company's revenue.

Please offer BYOD, please, please, please!

You get rich, we get reliability.
You are hero, help us to cut the phone bills and going green(ATA).

Agent_86

Hi, I'm not sure how to vote on this ?

I like the BYOD idea, however with cheap laptops being very cheap, you can get an old Dell 4000 series and run the majic jack just on that alone, so curious how much would a BYOD cost. I realize there is a great benifit of not having to even install or mess with windows on the laptop if you have a BYOD device.
I would prefer linux support so that people can make their own BYOD devices, and just pay for the service.

I don't care so much about the device as I do the service.
So there is no voting option for unsure ? or need more info or convincing ?

Whats the real benefit of the BYOD before I vote I think I need a little more convincing.

Please advise.

LikeMagic · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject:

Very good point. I forgot to mention the cost of an ATA device. It costs anywhere from $20 to $80, with most would cost around $40. Not to mention it's very small, needs very little power to run compared to a laptop or thin client PC or full pledge PC.

Try a search on eBay for VOIP ATA:
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=voip+ata

nostrodamus · Apprentice Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 10

Already have an ATA setup to receive calls through a Gizmo/Grandcentral setup. (ex SunRocket customer, liberated the ATA from their settings) Would love to set up the Magic Jack account on this device too, so I can turn the computer off, especially in the summer months when it really heats up the room. Also would like to run Linux rather than Windows, and MJ as of yet will not run on Linux. (Yes I've read about the VM stuff, but haven't had any luck there, unfortunately)

Agent_86 · Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: Linux Please , thanks

stroths · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject:

I run my MJ on a thin client (see my sig) and its got no moving parts. If you are very lucky, you can get a thin client like mine for under $50. I two of them for roughly 45 each including shipping. Of course, that was before I paid for some extra parts to beef them up some, but they both functioned perfectly fine with MJ before the upgrade. As Tim Taylor would say, "More Power!" Very Happy

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RAS108 · Apprentice Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 17

Pardon me for my ignorance but what do the letters 'BYOD' stand for?

gary · Dan Needs To Hire Me Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 121

Bring Your Own Device. Or a VOIP analog telephone adapter (ATA). Allows you to use the magicJack without keeping the PC/Laptop on all the time. Same device the run of the mill VOIP providers use.
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RAS108 · Apprentice Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 17

gary · Dan Needs To Hire Me Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 121

These guys have good prices. Grandstream, D-Link and Linksys are the popular brands.

http://www.telephonydepot.com/Analog_Adapters_ATAs_s/2.htm
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richardtaur · MagicJack Contributor Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 70

Yeah, I purchased three grandstream ATAs from Telephony Depot.
I love it.